Music Theory · Chapter 5, Lesson 2 — Intervals

Interval Numbers

Before you can talk about a "major 3rd" or a "perfect 5th," you need to know where the number comes from. It's simpler than it sounds — and it's not about counting semitones.

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What is an interval number?

An interval's number — 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and so on — counts the letter names from the bottom note to the top note, inclusive of both. It has nothing to do with how many semitones apart the notes are; that's the job of the interval's quality (major, minor, perfect, augmented, diminished), covered in the Major & Minor Intervals lesson.

How to count an interval number

Just count letters, ignoring any sharps or flats along the way:

  1. C to D: C, D — two letters, so it's a 2nd.
  2. C to E: C, D, E — three letters, so it's a 3rd.
  3. C to G: C, D, E, F, G — five letters, so it's a 5th.
  4. C to the next C: C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C — eight letters, so it's an octave (8th).
💡 Key insight: C to D♯ is still a 2nd — not a 3rd — even though D♯ sounds identical to E♭ on a piano. The letter name D makes it a 2nd; only the quality label (augmented) reflects the extra sharp.
🎹 Number Counter Pick a major key and a scale-degree number to hear that interval above the root.
Root note Target note Counting: C-D-E

The eight interval numbers

NumberLetters spannedExample from C
Unison (1st)CC
2ndC-DD
3rdC-D-EE
4thC-D-E-FF
5thC-D-E-F-GG
6thC-D-E-F-G-AA
7thC-D-E-F-G-A-BB
8th (octave)C-D-E-F-G-A-B-CC

Common questions

How do you count an interval number?

Count every letter name from the bottom note to the top note, inclusive. C to E is C-D-E, three letters, so it's a 3rd.

Does the interval number tell you the exact sound?

No — the number only counts letters. The quality (major, minor, perfect, augmented, diminished) pins down the exact semitone distance and sound.

Why is C to D♯ a 2nd and not a 3rd, even though it sounds like E♭?

Interval numbers follow letter-name spelling, not just pitch. C to D is a 2nd regardless of accidentals, so C to D♯ stays a 2nd (an augmented 2nd) despite sounding identical to C-E♭ on a piano.

What is the largest interval within one octave?

The octave itself, counted as an 8th — C up to the next C spans eight letter names.

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